TRAVEL SEPT. 1902 Canadian Rockies August 2021 The Sawtelle Archives at ANP contain a G.B. Dorr day diary from September 16, 1902 to September 25, 1902, including an entry for Oct. 2, 1902. Each page has Pitman shorthand content - -which has not been translated- documenting his travels following time spent with Harvard geology professor William Davis and his field crew in Utah and Arizona. There is a clear reference to companions Chr. Kauffman and other mountaineers in locations in the Canadian Rockies prior to a return trip after a two months absence to Boston, departing from Seattle on 10/2/1904. CanadianRockies821 Addendeem: See Steurde Monts Publications XIV, "Two Natural llancements." for Dorr's 1902 experences in ZionNational Movement with a recypertion the contrasting Sieur Monement 18 Commonwealth Avenue, Boston July 1st, 1902. Curator Gray Herbarium, Cambridge, Mass. For obtai Dear Sir, In reply to the circular sent me this spring and which I now seem to have mislaid I enclose you my check for $10. towards the maintenance of the Herbarium, I also wish to ask you whether there is any book or pub- - lication which I can obtain which would aid me in studying the flora and forest growth of Arizona and Utah, and similarly of Oregon, Washington and the Canadian Rockies. I am just starting West for Colorado, to most Professor Davis in southern Utah. and join him in an expedition down the western side of the Grand Cañon where I shall be for some weeks. And later I shall probably go un by way of Oregon and Washington and spend a few weeks camping out either there or among the Cana- dian Rockies, and any book, not too bulky to carry, which would help me to identify the plant life in either of those regions I should be glad to know of. What is the best way, also, of preserving the flowers and leaves of plants for later study and identification when one is on a camping trip where weight is of importance and space valuable. As I leave for the West in the middle of the day tomorrow At 2 I should be glad if you could let me have some word in reply, if you can conveniently do so, by this evening's mail 80 that I might receive it in the morning. If not, will you kindly write to me to await me at the post office at Provo City, Utah, where I shall be about the 10th of this month, and oblige greatly Yours truly, ANPA B.1f.12 Thursday, October 2, 1902 September 17, 1902 1 Abbort Pass 7 I Lake Often - Seattle, 102 10g Portland on (30 M/- Portland the Jr. 4/-d I 12 YL. I 2.3 it Columbia ) L 72 It " The Date ). 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Established in 1886, Parc national des Glaciers the park encompasses 1,349 km2 (521 sq mi), and includes a portion of the Columbia Mountains. It also contains the Rogers Pass National Historic Site. IUCN category II (national park) The park's history is closely tied to two primary Canadian transportation routes, the Canadian Pacific Railway (CPR), completed in 1885, and the Trans-Canada Highway, completed in 1963. The pass in the centre of the park eluded explorers until 1881. The railway brought with it tourism, the establishment of Glacier National Park and the construction of a popular alpine hotel. The heavy winter snows and steep, avalanche-prone valleys of the park have been a major obstacle to transportation, necessitating much railway engineering and avalanche control measures. The park contains high peaks, large, active glaciers, and one of Canada's largest Rogers Pass, a central feature in the park cave systems. Its dense forests support populations of large mammals, birds, and alpine species. The region is noted for its heavy snowfall. The park has an extensive network of trails, three campgrounds, and four backcountry huts and cabins. Due to the major transportation routes that bisect it, Glacier National Park sees large numbers of visitors. Contents History Rogers Pass Glacier House Location of Glacier National Park Mountaineering Connaught Tunnel and the Trans-Canada Highway Location British Columbia, Canada Geography Nearest city Revelstoke, British Mountains Columbia Major peaks and ranges Coordinates 51°18'0"N 117°31'7"W Glaciers Rivers Area 1,349 km2 (521 sq mi) Geology Established October 10, 1886 Caves Governing body Parks Canada Ecology Website Flora http://www.pc.gc.ca/eng/pn- Fauna inp/bc/glacier/index.aspx Climate Avalanche control Facilities See also Notes References Further reading External links History on the Columbia River in 1811. He named them Nelson's Mountains, after Lord Horatio Nelson, but they were later renamed after an executive for the rival Hudson's Bay Company, Lord Thomas Douglas Selkirk. [1] Finding a pass through the Selkirks became a priority after construction of the Canadian Pacific Railway began. Completion of the railway was a condition of the Colony of British Columbia upon entering Canadian Confederation in 1867. In 1865, CPR surveyor Walter Moberly led an expedition up the Illecillewaet River (which he named, using the Okanangan word for "swift water"). Despite recently discovering Eagle Pass through the nearby Monashees, Moberly failed to find a pass through the Selkirks after getting sidetracked in the Tangier Creek drainage. His party refused to explore further due to the lateness of the season, and Moberly was forced to retreat. [2] Rogers Pass An expedition led by Major Albert Bowman Rogers up the Illecillewaet discovered a viable pass in 1881. Rogers was awarded a five thousand dollar prize for locating a route through the mountains. (3) By 1885, the CPR had constructed a line through Rogers Pass and trains were traveling west to the Pacific for the first time in Canada. The federal government and the CPR quickly realized the tourism potential of the mountainous, heavily glaciated area. Following a trip by Prime Minister John A. Macdonald and his wife Agnes through the Rockies on the newly completed Trancontinental Railroad, he returned to Ottawa inspired, and led the creation of Glacier and Yoho National Parks, both established on October 10, 1886. They were the second and third national parks in the country, after Banff, a year earlier. [4] Glacier House The grade of the railway approaching Rogers Pass was too steep to allow for dining cars on the trains, SO the CPR built a hotel west of the pass in 1886. This added to a collection of CPR- owned hotels across Canada, including Mount Stephen House in Yoho National Park, built in the same year and with the same floor plan Glacier House. located near the terminus of the Illecillewaet Glacier (called the Great Glacier at the time), became a center for tourism, mountaineering, glaciology, and photography in the Selkirks. The hotel was expanded in 1905 and 1911. It was considered one of western Canada's premier tourist destinations at the turn of the twentieth century. [5] The hotel attracted alpinists from around the world. Due to its elevation, climbers could be in Glacier House in 1909 the high alpine within hours of leaving their room. In 1899, the CPR contracted the services of several Swiss guides to assist the less mountain-savvy tourists through the high country. Throughout the Glacier House period, many first ascents were made on peaks within the park. The hotel also attracted naturalists and scientists keen to study the mountain environment. Mary Vaux Walcott and her brothers, George and William Vaux, visited the area many times, and began the first scientific studies of the Illecillewaet Glacier. [6] Mountaineering Glacier House is considered "the first center of alpinism" in North America by American Alpine Club historian William Lowell Putnam. It saw an influx of European and American professional climbers in its first two decades of operation. William Spotswood Green was the first European climber to make note of the excellent climbing possibilities of peaks near the CPR line. Green and Henry Swanzy made the first recorded ascents of major peaks in the summer of 1888, climbing Mount Bonney and Green's Peak. Harold Topham, a British climber, made many first ascents in 1890 including Mount Fox; he later joined with Henry Forster, and two Swiss climbers, Emil Huber and Carl Sulzer to explore the southern peaks of the park. Huber and Sulzer also claimed the prized first ascent of the dramatic Mount Sir Donald. Arthur Oliver Wheeler, a cartographer, climber, and founding member of the Alpine Club of Canada (ACC), came to Glacier House in 1901. This started a thirty-year relationship with the northern Selkirks, which saw Wheeler map the region, publish large reference works on its geography, and explore much of the park's terrain. [9] An ACC hut near the Illecillewaet campground bears his name, as well as a peak and a pass. Professor Charles Ernest Fay, first president of the American Alpine Club, after visiting the park in the 1890s, publicized it in the club's magazine. [10] By the 1900s, almost all of the park's prominent peaks had seen human tracks. Connaught Tunnel and the Trans-Canada Highway After its first winter in operation in 1886, it became clear to the CPR that the heavy snows of Rogers Pass were going to be a serious challenge. Extensive snow sheds were built to shelter the rails from frequent avalanches. These wood sheds became a fire hazard in the summer months, SO a separate summer track was built. In 1910, while clearing one slide, another avalanche came down Avalanche https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glacier_National_Park_(Canada) 2/8 DEPARTMENT OF THE INTERIOR DOMINION PARKS BRANCH Glaciers of the Rockies and Selkirks By A. P. Coleman, M.A., Ph. D., F.R.S. President Alpine Club of Canada Author of "The Canadian Rockies" With Notes on Five Great Glaciers of the Canadian National Parks By A. O. Wheeler, Director Alpine Club of Canada Re-Published under the direction of Sir James Lougheed Minister of the Interior 14653-1 OUNTAINEERING EXPLORATION IN THE SELKIRKS HOWARD PALMER 3/18/2018 XFINITY Connect Sent 2. Re: Inquiry: George Bucknam Dorr Ronald Epp 11:01 AM To Steven Holmes Copy Peter Dreher Dear Peter and Steve, What a surprise to receive your inquiry. I have have just moved from Pennsylvania to a new home just west of Hartford CT and only yesterday was my Internet connectivity re- established. I do have information not disclosed in Creating Acadia National Park regarding Dorr's activity in late September 1902. Dorr was out West that summer with Harvard geologist William Morris Davis engaged in field studies in Utah and Arizona. Before he departed he indicated in a letter to the curator of the Harvard Herbarium his hope to visit the northwest and Canadian Rockies. As I explain in my book, he published "Two National Monuments" in 1917 about his adventure but not what followed in late September. The Acadia National Park archives contain fragments of his 1902 travel diary. This documentation is in Pitman shorthand, a technique he and Charles W. Eliot used. Much of this documentation is marred by a scribbling over the entries but clarified by an occasional transcription in a hand other than Mr. Dorr. Because it appeared to be such an unfruitful document I did not try to have it transcribed. BUT, in the entry for Sept. 24, 1902 is "Mt. Stephens [unintelligible] 3:30," written after several days of references to activities around Abbot Pass and Lake Louise. By October 2 he is in Seattle and Portland. I can send you copies of the entries if you provide contact information. I would very much like to know more, Peter, about your project. and more specific information on the source of the Glacier reference to "George [B?] Dorr of Boston." I much appreciate Steve reaching out to me and am curious as well about his inquiries. Best, Ron Ronald H. Epp, Ph.D. 4. 3/18/2018 XFINITY Connect Inbox Re: Inquiry: George Bucknam Dorr Dreher Peter 2:08 PM To Ronald Epp Copy Steven Holmes 1 attachment View Open in browser Download Dear Steve and Ron. Thank you both for your kind e-mails. For the past few years, I have been researching several Swiss mountain guides from the late-nineteenth and early twentieth centuries, who climbed in the Alps and in Canada. Specifically, I am hoping to put together some biographies of Peter Kaufmann (1832-1903); Peter Kaufmann (1858-1924); Peter Kaufmann (1886-1971); Christian Kaufmann (1872-1939); Hans Kaufmann (1874- 1930). I have been lucky enough to obtain copies of the Fuhrerbücher of some of the guides. As you probably know these small "notebooks" are carried by the guides so that clients can write references or detail events about excursions. One of those references was written on September 28, 1902, by George B. Dorr of Boston. And now that you, Ron, mentioned some more details (e.g., Mt. Stephen, Abbott Pass), we can be sure it is indeed George B. Dorr. I have attached a copy of the Führerbuch entry. Here is what it says, / have had great pleasure in climbing with Christian Kaufmann and / have felt throughout the most confidence in his skill, his strength, and his faithfulness and sense of responsibility-The climbs we made together-and / wish there might have been many more-were Mt. Stephen, Abbott's Pass, and Duchesnay Pass. He came with me to Glacier together with Chr[istian] Häsler, to climbed Sir Donald but snow precluded the ascent. George B. Dorr of Boston, U.S.A. Sept. 28, 1902 Glacier. B.C. Source: Kaufmann, Christian. Führerbuch, nach dem Reglement für die Bergführer und Träger vom 24. Juni 1892. Interlaken, 1892, p. 102. It is interesting that GBD became a serious mountaineer and that he later climbed Mt. Whitney. I would be curious to know if there was any further reference to the Canadian climbs and/or the guides. Sometimes Kaufmann's Canadian clients sought him out in the Alps as well; but I know of no record of GBD climbing in Switzerland. You might be interested in my article, posted on Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Kaufmann, (Alpine guide) At the moment, I am working on a biography of Christian Kaufmann (1872-1939), which I also hope to post on Wikipedia on the near future. Yes, I would very much appreciate any further documents about GBD in the Rockies or the Selkirks. Thank you both for your feedback on this. Best wishes, Peter Peter Dreher Olney, MD 20832 603-491-1760 3. eppster2@comcast.net On March 16, 2018 at 10:38 AM Steven Holmes wrote: Peter - Hi! I hope you are well. Thanks for the note, interesting to hear of your coming across Dorr in your own research. Yes, looking at Ron Epp's biography of Dorr (page 113), it seems that GBD did take a Western trip in summer 1902, with the Canadian Rockies as a possible destination - but the details are pretty sketchy, with little evidence as to where he actually visited on the trip (see note 31 on overall lack of evidence about the trip). So, I think your find might be of interest to Ron (whom I'm therefore including in this e-mail) - it would be great to have confirmation, but it seems likely this was indeed Dorr, and your info therefore may both nail down one destination on an otherwise hazy trip, and also shine a bit more light on Dorr's development as a serious mountaineer - again according to Ron, this comes 2 years before Dorr's much-better-documented trip to the Sierras, where he scaled Mt Whitney - maybe this Canadian mountaineering served as preparation for that later success. The Swiss guide angle seems potentially interesting too, given Dorr's European leanings (though I forget if he mountaineered in the Alps or not ...). Though again, would be great to have a smidge more data to make it all click. Maybe you have more evidence on all this, Ron? Cheers, Steve Steven Pavlos Holmes, Ph.D. Scholar-in-Residence at the Boston Nature Center, Mattapan, MA Home: 21 Eldridge Road, Jamaica Plain, MA 02130 USA 617-285-2832 Email: stevenpavlosholmes@gmx.com Alternate: stevenjholmes@post.harvard.edu https://facingthechangeanthology.wordpress.com/about-the-editor/ Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2018 at 2:35 PM From: Peter Dreher To: stevenpavlosholmes@gmx.com Subject: Inquiry: George Bucknam Dorr Hello Steven Holmes, I just read your biography of George Bucknam Dorr in the Sept/Oct 2016 issue of Harvard Magazine. And I was wondering if you might know whether Dorr did some mountain/glacier climbing in the Canadian Rocky Mountains and Silkirks around September 28, 1902. I'm doing some research on Swiss mountaineers (i.e., guides) in Canada during the turn of the century. I have a reference--written at Glacier, B.C.--to "George [B?] Dorr of Boston" climbing Mt. Stephen and attempting to climb Mt. Sir Donald. Could this be a George Bucknam Dorr (1853-1944)? Thanks so much for taking the time to consider my question. Best wishes, Peter Dreher Olney, MD httns://connect xfinity com/annsuite/#11&ann=in 212 3/19/2018 Part_2.jpeg (700x1093) Note: Below is a copy of G.B.Dorr's handwrittan entry in a guide führerbucher, completed in late 1902 in Glacier, British Columbia (see emails). This discovery by Peter Dreher extended my understanding of Dorr's tra 6/26/2 RH 102 l have had great pleasure in climbing limit Christia Kaufrasm and I have felt thereighent the most lulin Confidence is his skill, his thought and his faithfulmen / Jease of respon sibility The Climbs we made together - and I will they have been many turn -- wen hit Stephen, about Pass, r Duchesing Pass He Cam with - me to Glacin, it Clie Masler, a 4 Clunb but thow provided the ascent Sept. 28th George R. work 190? of Rotten u.s.a Mount Stephen - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Page 1 of 1 Mount Stephen From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Coordinates: 51°23'56"N 116°26'11"W Mount Stephen is a mountain located in the Kicking Horse Mount Stephen River Valley of Yoho National Park, 1/2 km east of Field. The mountain was named in 1886 for George Stephen, the first Elevation 3,199 m (10,495 ft) [1] president of the Canadian Pacific Railway. (1) Location British Columbia, Canada The mountain is comprised mainly of shales and dolomites Range Canadian Rockies from the Cambrian era, some 550 million years ago. Prominence 989 m (3,245 ft)[1] The first ascent was made in September 1887 when James. J. McArthur and his assistant T. Riley, which was made even Coordinates 51°23'56"N 116°26'11"W more difficult by the surveying equipment they also carried Topo map NTS 82N/08 with them. Unfortunately for them, smoke from forest fires limited visibility from the top. [1][2] First ascent 1887 by James J. McArthur, T. Riley Climbing routes Easiest scramble (difficult) route The main route (scramble) ascends slopes on the southwest face but requires much route finding and the final section of 125 m (410 ft) to the top is rated difficult. A cornice on the summit may prevent parties from reaching the top SO if in doubt of conditions, attempts should wait until August. The route also passes through a fossil bed and thus requires a special park permit to be in the area. The elevation gain is 1,920 m (6,299 ft). A rock climbing route on the north ridge is rated III 5.7. [2] References Mt. Stephen 1. rabcde Mount Stephen in the Canadian Mountain Encyclopedia 2. rabc Mt. Stephen on PeakFinder Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Stephen Location in British Columbia Category: Mountains of British Columbia This page was last modified on 3 January 2009, at 04:51. All text is available under the terms of the GNU Free Documentation License. (See Copyrights for details.) Wikipedia® is a registered trademark of the Wikimedia Foundation, Inc., a U.S. registered 501(c)(3) tax- deductible nonprofit charity. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Stephen 2/19/2009 8/3/2018 Mount MacDonald Bivouac.com Mountain Page Home Help Index Login Mount MacDonald (Mount Carroll) British Columbia #2373 Ranges: North America Ranges / Columbia Mountains / Selkirk Mountains / Duncan Ranges / Sir Donald Range Height: 2883 m -> 9459 feet Prominence?: 518 m Line Parent?: Uto Peak (4.5 km away, at bearing 151 degrees) Greater Parent: Mount Sir Donald (6.0 km away) Location: 51.30835,-117.47160 51:18:30, -117:28:18 11U 467128 5684221 (35 km W of Golden). NTS Mapsheet: 082.N.06 AreaCode: FL17/DE07 First Ascent: 1886 DO Lewis, several members of CPR Engineering Mount MacDonald is located immediately east of Rogers Pass. Its north face drops straight to the highway north of Rogers Pass. The Connaught Tunnel takes the Canadian Pacific Railway right under the entire mountain, thus bypassing Rogers Pass. In the 1990's a second and longer, lower railway tunnel has also been completed. Mount MacDonald was North Face of Mount MacDonald originally called Mount Carroll, but was renamed in honor of Sir John A. MacDonald, the first Prime Minister of Canada. The towering complex north face of Mt MacDonald is one of the major walls in the Selkirks, it rises 1700m above the Trans Canada Highway. To reach the north face it is necessary to cross Connaught creek. This creek crossing may be difficult with high water, at present a log below the second snowshed (from the west) provides a crossing point. There are numerous recorded routes all around the mountain ranging from class 3 to V 5.8 A3. Route Summaries exist for this mountain, but are only available to paid members. 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Yes, looking at Ron Epp's biography of Dorr (page 113), it seems that GBD did take a Western trip in summer 1902, with the Canadian Rockies as a possible destination - but the details are pretty sketchy, with little evidence as to where he actually visited on the trip (see note 31 on overall lack of evidence about the trip). So, I think your find might be of interest to Ron (whom I'm therefore including in this e-mail) - it would be great to have confirmation, but it seems likely this was indeed Dorr, and your info therefore may both nail down one destination on an otherwise hazy trip, and also shine a bit more light on Dorr's development as a serious mountaineer - again according to Ron, this comes 2 years before Dorr's much- better-documented trip to the Sierras, where he scaled Mt Whitney - maybe this Canadian mountaineering served as preparation for that later success. The Swiss guide angle seems potentially interesting too, given Dorr's European leanings (though I forget if he mountaineered in the Alps or not ...). Though again, would be great to have a smidge more data to make it all click. Maybe you have more evidence on all this, Ron? Cheers, Steve Steven Pavlos Holmes, Ph.D. Scholar-in-Residence at the Boston Nature Center, Mattapan, MA Home: 21 Eldridge Road, Jamaica Plain, MA 02130 USA 617-285-2832 Email: stevenpavlosholmes@gmx.com Alternate: stevenjholmes@post.harvard.edu https://facingthechangeanthology.wordpress.com/about-the-editor/ Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2018 at 2:35 PM From: Peter Dreher To: stevenpavlosholmes@gmx.com Subject: Inquiry: George Bucknam Dorr Hello Steven Holmes, I just read your biography of George Bucknam Dorr in the Sept/Oct 2016 issue of Harvard Magazine. And I was wondering if you might know whether Dorr did some mountain/glacier climbing in the Canadian Rocky Mountains and Silkirks around September 28, 1902. I'm doing some research on Swiss mountaineers (i.e., guides) in Canada during the turn of the century. I have a reference--written at Glacier, B.C.--to "George [B?] Dorr of Boston" climbing Mt. Stephen and attempting to climb Mt. Sir Donald. Could this be a George Bucknam Dorr (1853-1944)? Thanks so much for taking the time to consider my question. Best wishes, Peter Dreher Olney, MD 3/18/2018 XFINITY Connect Sent Re: Inquiry: George Bucknam Dorr Ronald Epp 11:01 AM To Steven Holmes Copy Peter Dreher Dear Peter and Steve, What a surprise to receive your inquiry. I have have just moved from Pennsylvania to a new home just west of Hartford CT and only yesterday was my Internet connectivity re- established. I do have information not disclosed in Creating Acadia National Park regarding Dorr's activity in late September 1902. Dorr was out West that summer with Harvard geologist William Morris Davis engaged in field studies in Utah and Arizona. Before he departed he indicated in a letter to the curator of the Harvard Herbarium his hope to visit the northwest and Canadian Rockies. As I explain in my book, he published "Two National Monuments" in 1917 about his adventure but not what followed in late September. The Acadia National Park archives contain fragments of his 1902 travel diary. This documentation is in Pitman shorthand, a technique he and Charles W. Eliot used. Much of this documentation is marred by a scribbling over the entries but clarified by an occasional transcription in a hand other than Mr. Dorr. Because it appeared to be such an unfruitful document I did not try to have it transcribed. BUT, in the entry for Sept. 24, 1902 is "Mt. Stephens [unintelligible] 3:30," written after several days of references to activities around Abbot Pass and Lake Louise. By October 2 he is in Seattle and Portland. I can send you copies of the entries if you provide contact information. I would very much like to know more, Peter, about your project. and more specific information on the source of the Glacier reference to "George [B?] Dorr of Boston." I much appreciate Steve reaching out to me and am curious as well about his inquiries. Best, Ron Ronald H. Epp, Ph.D. Farmington, C I 06032 603-491-1760 eppster2@comcast.net On March 16, 2018 at 10:38 AM Steven Holmes wrote: Peter - Hi! I hope you are well. Thanks for the note, interesting to hear of your coming across Dorr in your own research. Yes, looking at Ron Epp's biography of Dorr (page 113), it seems that GBD did take a Western trip in summer 1902, with the Canadian Rockies as a possible destination - but the details are pretty sketchy, with little evidence as to where he actually visited on the trip (see note 31 on overall lack of evidence about the trip). So, I think your find might be of interest to Ron (whom I'm therefore including in this e-mail) - it would be great to have confirmation, but it seems likely this was indeed Dorr, and your info therefore may both nail down one destination on an otherwise hazy trip, and also shine a bit more light on Dorr's development as a serious mountaineer - again according to Ron, this comes 2 years before Dorr's much-better-documented trip to the Sierras, where he scaled Mt Whitney - maybe this Canadian mountaineering served as preparation for that later success. The Swiss guide angle seems potentially interesting too, given Dorr's European leanings (though I forget if he mountaineered in the Alps or not ...). Though again, would be great to have a smidge more data to make it all click. Maybe you have more evidence on all this, Ron? Cheers, Steve Steven Pavlos Holmes, Ph.D. Scholar-in-Residence at the Boston Nature Center, Mattapan, MA Home: 21 Eldridge Road, Jamaica Plain, MA 02130 USA 617-285-2832 Email: stevenpavlosholmes@gmx.com Alternate: stevenjholmes@post.harvard.edu https://facingthechangeanthology.wordpress.com/about-the-editor/ Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2018 at 2:35 PM From: Peter Dreher To: stevenpavlosholmes@gmx.com Subject: Inquiry: George Bucknam Dorr Hello Steven Holmes, I just read your biography of George Bucknam Dorr in the Sept/Oct 2016 issue of Harvard Magazine. And I was wondering if you might know whether Dorr did some mountain/glacier climbing in the Canadian Rocky Mountains and Silkirks around September 28, 1902. I'm doing some research on Swiss mountaineers (i.e., guides) in Canada during the turn of the century. I have a reference--written at Glacier, B.C.--to "George [B?] Dorr of Boston" climbing Mt. Stephen and attempting to climb Mt. Sir Donald. Could this be a George Bucknam Dorr (1853-1944)? Thanks so much for taking the time to consider my question. Best wishes, Peter Dreher Olney, MD https://connect.xfinity.com/appsuite/#!!&app=io.ox/mail&folder=default0//qj%7Bo5Xlp%7D 2/2 3/19/2018 XFINITY Connect Sent Re: Inquiry: George Bucknam Dorr Ronald Epp 4:34 PM To Steven Holmes, Peter Dreher 1 attachment View Open in browser Download Good day, These emails get more interesting as speculation is mixed with corroboration--to which I will further contribute. First off, the copy of the signed G.B. Dorr 9.28.1902 letter was new to me but definitively in his most characteristic hand. A thrill whenever I see a new example. It also amplifies his travel journal entry which refers to "Chr. Kauffmann" on September 16, and "Hans Kaufmann" on 9.22. There are also repeated references to "Gleason" which most surely is landscape photographer Herbert Wendell Gleason. I wonder, Peter, if you have any references to that name? Gleason figures prominently in Dorr's life and in the photographic history of the NPS; his biography by Dale Schwie was published last year and I have just queried him about the the Glacier trip. By the way, in November 1919 Dorr traveled to Denver and the Rocky Mountain National Park, attending his first national parks conference as a new superintendent. There he would have encountered Enos Mills, and afterwards he visited "certain western parks." Again, the lack of details is frustrating. It has been quite a few years since I traced what remains of his European travels between 1873-78; details are sketchy but he clearly favored hiking severe heights in Switzerland, Italy, Austria, and Germany. Will return to these notes in the weeks ahead. Dorr's familiarity with the developing Italian national parks movement was also evident when--in 1918--he was asked to translate for publication the Italian article by Luigi Parpagliiolo on the establishment of the first national park in Italy; you may recall that Abruzzo National Park is situated in the Central Apennines, an area frequently visited by Dorr four decades earlier. Incidentally, I also need to research possible transcribers of the Pitman shorthand so that the full content of the Dorr travel journal is made available. Steve, I too wonder about Dorr's personal connections in Massachusetts and in Bar Harbor I appreciate your research on Rhodes with whom I am unfamiliar although I agree with you that "it seems extremely likely that the two would have known each other." Pursuing other names in Christian's book seems a worthwhile task. How might we carry this off, Peter? Similarly, the Wikipedia entry on mountaineer Philip Stanley Abbot (1867-1896) states that his family was in Bar Harbor in 1896 where he and Dorr would have connected, especially since Dorr pursued fellow Harvard alums. Perhaps his tragic death would have spurred Dorr's interest in Glacier for we know from his entry that he was at the Abbot Pass. I'll see what more I can uncover about Abbot-Dorr. It may also be relevant that Dorr and professor inined 1902 in estahlishing Hope these odds and ends have some utility. Peter, I will send the journal entries when I receive your street address. Best, Ron Ronald H. Epp, Ph.D. 7 Peachtree Terrace Farmington, CT 06032 603-491-1760 eppster2@comcast.net On March 19, 2018 at 10:58 AM Steven Holmes wrote: All very interesting! I'm intrigued at the thoiught of tracing some of the personal connections here. Peter, were there any other Bostonians represented in Kaufmann's book over the previous year or so? If so, perhaps Ron or I could figure out whether those are people Dorr might have known back home in Massachusetts, who might have told Dorr about Kaufmann's prowess as a guide before he ever got there. For example, looking at the Wikipedia entry on Peter Kaufmann, I notice you quote another Bostonian, Daniel P Rhodes, concerning his experiences in the Alps. Having time and inclination, a half-hour of Googling brought me the information that in 1901, Rhodes lived about 7-8 blocks away from the Dorr family residence in Boston, and moreover wrote a few books on philosophy; in the close-knit Boston social scene, it seems extremely likely that these the two philosophically-engaged mountaineers would have known each other. And given what you say about the Kaufmann family's transatlantic connections, perhaps Rhodes (while in the Alps) learned that Christian would be in Canada the next season, and thus recommended Christian as a possible guide on Dorr's trip? It seems entirely possible, though would take a bit more hunting to nail it down; but perhaps there are other names in Christian's book that are more clear-cut cases of personal conenctions. Of course, it's also possible that Dorr just showed up and happened to engage Christian on the spot, without any previous recommendation - so, no assurance that such lines of inquiry would come to anything Cheers, Steve Steven Pavlos Holmes, Ph.D. Scholar-in-Residence at the Boston Nature Center, Mattapan, MA Home: 21 Eldridge Road, Jamaica Plain, MA 02130 USA 617-285-2832 Email: stevenpavlosholmes@gmx.com Alternate: stevenjholmes@post.harvard.edy https://facingthechangeanthology.wordpress.com/about-the-editor/ Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2018 at 2:08 PM From: Dreher Peter To: Ronald Epp Cc: Steven Holmes Subject: Re: Inquiry: George Bucknam Dorr https://connect.xfinity.com/appsuite/#!!&app=io.ox/mail&folder=default0//qj%7Bo5Xlp%7D 2/6 3/22/2018 XFINITY Connect Inbox Re: Inquiry: George Bucknam Dorr Steven Holmes 3:24 PM To eppster2@comcast.net Copy Peter Dreher 1 attachment View Open in browser Download Peter and Ron - Curiouser and curiouser! :) I had been wondering whether the Appalachian Mountain Club might have served as a context for any of these folks to network about these issues; so when Ron mentioned Gleason a few days ago, I was struck by a random thought to check the online catalog of the AMC archives http://opac.libraryworld.com/opac/signin?libraryname=appalachianmountain club. Enter in Herbert Gleason and - viola! - it turns out that they have 12 photos that Gleason took in Canada in 1901-2, mainly in the Selkirk area! Two photos specifically identify Mt Sir Donald as subject, and intriguingly say "party on ice" - suggesting that there might be people in the image as well. Tantalizingly, the catalog entries give as possible date for both images "Sept 24, 1902?" - BUT comparing the negative numbers to other images with more definite dates, it seems to me pretty clear that these photos were from 1901 rather than 1902. Otherwise, the AMC collection does have 2 Gleason photos from Vancouver from 1902, though nothing from the Selkirks that year - but as Ron just noted, the image in the Concord Public Library does confirm that Gleason did get up to the Selkirks in 1902, the year that Dorr was there. Of course, one would want to look at all these negatives and check on the dates and make sure they are all what these catalog entries say they are, but if it works out these may provide more evidence to put alongside any references to Gleason in Dorr's writing (as Ron mentioned), to nail down more details of the trip. But there's more - though you may well already know about this, Peter: Enter "Kaufmann" in the AMC catalog, and you get info on 2 images from a trip including Hans Kaufmann in 1902 (including an image of Kaufmann himself). The entries also refer to articles about the trip that appeared in Appalachia magazine vol 10 - which one can access at Archives.com: https://archive.org/stream/appalachia19clubgoog#page/n0/mode/2up And it turns out that in addition to the 2 articles mentioned in those Kaufmann entries in the AMC catalog, there are a number of other articles or reports on AMC explorations in the Selkirks in 1901-2 - it seems to have been a special focus of AMC exploration at the time - you can use the search function to find references to Gleason, the Kaufmanns, Outram, and others. For example, the first article in vol 10 issue 1 (p 13 of the PDF) is Outram's report - read at a public meeting of the AMC on November 19, 1901 - on explorations in the Ottertail Group the preceding summer, with Christian Hasler as guide; see also p66 (of PDF) for his account of ascent of Mt Assiniboine, and p113 ff for summary of peaks achived (most, again, with Hasler, it seems). A year later, Nov 1902, he read another report on explorations during the summer of 1902 (see p 186 ff), which includes a lot on Christian Kaufmann. Again, I realize that you may well already know of all these articles, Peter As far as Gleason, he first shows up in Appalachia vol 10 as a "member added since 1900", i.e. a new member in 1901 - and on pp. 230-31 it notes that he gave an illustrated talk at the AMC meeting on June 11, 1902 (400 people attending), on his trip to the Canadian Rockies the previous year (presumably including the photos now held in the AMC archives). Later (see p. 236), at a special meeting on April 14, 1903 (600 attending), he gave another illustrated talk on "Mountain Photography," which it says included many photos that he had taken "last summer" in the Canadian Rockies (probably including that one photo in the Concord Public Library) - again, putting him in the Rockies at the time Dorr was there. Ron, from what you know of Dorr's whereabouts these years, might he have attended either the November 1901 AMC meeting at which Outram spoke, or the June 11 meeting featuring Gleason? Whether or not he did, it seems certainly possible that he discussed the Canadian Rockies with either person in more infomal settings, again given the social connections of all these folks - or maybe Charles E Fay (Tufts professor, prominent in the AMC, and mentioned in Outram's 1901 talk). In any case, I'll be interested to hear more details about Dorr's mentions of Gleason in the 1902 trip journal, which might nail down some of these possibilites more definitely All very interesting! Cheers, Steve 3/18/2018 XFINITY Connect Inbox Re: Inquiry: George Bucknam Dorr Dreher Peter 2:08 PM To Ronald Epp Copy Steven Holmes 1 attachment View Open in browser Download Dear Steve and Ron, Thank you both for your kind e-mails. For the past few years, I have been researching several Swiss mountain guides from the late-nineteenth and early twentieth centuries, who climbed in the Alps and in Canada. Specifically, I am hoping to put together some biographies of Peter Kaufmann (1832-1903); Peter Kaufmann (1858-1924); Peter Kaufmann (1886-1971); Christian Kaufmann (1872-1939); Hans Kaufmann (1874- 1930). I have been lucky enough to obtain copies of the Fuhrerbücher of some of the guides. As you probably know these small "notebooks" are carried by the guides so that clients can write references or detail events about excursions. One of those references was written on September 28, 1902, by George B. Dorr of Boston. And now that you, Ron, mentioned some more details (e.g., Mt. Stephen, Abbott Pass), we can be sure it is indeed George B. Dorr. I have attached a copy of the Führerbuch entry. Here is what it says, / have had great pleasure in climbing with Christian Kaufmann and / have felt throughout the most confidence in his skill, his strength, and his faithfulness and sense of responsibility-The climbs we made together-and / wish there might have been many more-were Mt. Stephen, Abbott's Pass, and Duchesnay Pass. He came with me to Glacier together with Chr[istian] Häsler, to climbed Sir Donald but snow precluded the ascent. George B. Dorr of Boston, U.S.A. Sept. 28, 1902 Glacier, B.C. Source: Kaufmann, Christian. Führerbuch, nach dem Reglement für die Bergführer und Träger vom 24. Juni 1892. Interlaken, 1892, p. 102. It is interesting that GBD became a serious mountaineer and that he later climbed Mt. Whitney. I would be curious to know if there was any further reference to the Canadian climbs and/or the guides. Sometimes Kaufmann's Canadian clients sought him out in the Alps as well; but I know of no record of GBD climbing in Switzerland. You might be interested in my article, posted on Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Kaufmann_(Alpine_gu At the moment, I am working on a biography of Christian Kaufmann (1872-1939), which I also hope to post on Wikipedia on the near future. Yes, I would very much appreciate any further documents about GBD in the Rockies or the Selkirks. Thank you both for your feedback on this. Best wishes, Peter Peter Dreher Olney, MD 20832 102 In climbing unit Christia Kaufram and I leave felt theorightent the most lutur Confidence in his skill. his thought and his faithfulnery Ileuse of respon sibility The Climbs we made together - and I will they high have been many turn -- wen Mit Stephen, abbott's Pass, r Duchesing Pass - He Cam with together W it Cli Master, 40Climb Sir wonald but those provided the ascent Sept. 28th George R. work Glaci M 1902 of Rotter U.J.a. https://connect.xfinity.com/appsuite/#!!&app=io.ox/mail&folder=default0/INBOX 2/4 3/18/2018 XFINITY Connect Inbox On Mar 18, 2018, at 11:01 AM, Ronald Epp wrote: Dear Peter and Steve, What a surprise to receive your inquiry. I have have just moved from Pennsylvania to a new home just west of Hartford CT and only yesterday was my Internet connectivity re-established. I do have information not disclosed in Creating Acadia National Park regarding Dorr's activity in late September 1902. Dorr was out West that summer with Harvard geologist William Morris Davis engaged in field studies in Utah and Arizona. Before he departed he indicated in a letter to the curator of the Harvard Herbarium his hope to visit the northwest and Canadian Rockies. As I explain in my book, he published "Two National Monuments" in 1917 about his adventure but not what followed in late September. The Acadia National Park archives contain fragments of his 1902 travel diary. This documentation is in Pitman shorthand, a technique he and Charles W. Eliot used. Much of this documentation is marred by a scribbling over the entries but clarified by an occasional transcription in a hand other than Mr. Dorr. Because it appeared to be such an unfruitful document I did not try to have it transcribed. BUT, in the entry for Sept. 24, 1902 is "Mt. Stephens [unintelligible] 3:30," written after several days of references to activities around Abbot Pass and Lake Louise. By October 2 he is in Seattle and Portland. I can send you copies of the entries if you provide contact information. I would very much like to know more, Peter, about your project. and more specific information on the source of the Glacier reference to "George [B?] Dorr of Boston." I much appreciate Steve reaching out to me and am curious as well about his inquiries. Best, Ron Ronald H. Epp, Ph.D. 7 Peachtree Terrace Farmington, CT 06032 603-491-1760 eppster2@comcast.net On March 16, 2018 at 10:38 AM Steven Holmes wrote: Peter Hi! I hope you are well. Thanks for the note, interesting to hear of your coming across Dorr in your own research. Yes, looking at Ron Epp's biography of Dorr (page 113), it seems that GBD did take a Western trip in summer 1902, with the Canadian Rockies as a possible destination - but the details are pretty sketchy, with little evidence as to where he actually visited on the trip (see note 31 on overall lack of evidence about the trip). So, I think your find might be of interest to Ron (whom I'm therefore including in this e-mail) - it would be great to have confirmation, but it seems likely this was indeed Dorr, and your info therefore may both nail down one destination on an otherwise hazy trip, and also shine a bit more light on interesting European Teamings mumaleertu Though again, would be great to have a smidge more data to make it all click. Maybe you have more evidence on all this, Ron? Cheers, Steve Steven Pavlos Holmes, Ph.D. Scholar-in-Residence at the Boston Nature Center, Mattapan, MA Home: 21 Eldridge Road, Jamaica Plain, MA 02130 USA 617-285-2832 Email: stevenpavlosholmes@gmx.com Alternate: stevenjholmes@post.harvard.edu https://facingthechangeanthology.wordpress.com/about-the-editor/ Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2018 at 2:35 PM From: Peter Dreher To: stevenpavlosholmes@gmx.com Subject: Inquiry: George Bucknam Dorr Hello Steven Holmes, I just read your biography of George Bucknam Dorr in the Sept/Oct 2016 issue of Harvard Magazine. And I was wondering if you might know whether Dorr did some mountain/glacier climbing in the Canadian Rocky Mountains and Silkirks around September 28, 1902. I'm doing some research on Swiss mountaineers (i.e., guides) in Canada during the turn of the century. I have a reference--written at Glacier, B.C.--to "George [B?] Dorr of Boston" climbing Mt. Stephen and attempting to climb Mt. Sir Donald. Could this be a George Bucknam Dorr (1853-1944)? Thanks so much for taking the time to consider my question. Best wishes, Peter Dreher Olney, MD https://connect.xfinity.com/appsuite/#!!&app=io.ox/mail&folder=default0/INBOX 4/4 3/19/2018 XFINITY Connect Inbox Re: Inquiry: George Bucknam Dorr Steven Holmes 10:58 AM To Dreher Peter Copy Ronald Epp 1 attachment View Open in browser Download All very interesting! I'm intrigued at the thoiught of tracing some of the personal connections here. Peter, were there any other Bostonians represented in Kaufmann's book over the previous year or so? If so, perhaps Ron or I could figure out whether those are people Dorr might have known back home in Massachusetts, who might have told Dorr about Kaufmann's prowess as a guide before he ever got there. For example, looking at the Wikipedia entry on Peter Kaufmann, I notice you quote another Bostonian, Daniel P Rhodes, concerning his experiences in the Alps. Having time and inclination, a half-hour of Googling brought me the information that in 1901, Rhodes lived about 7-8 blocks away from the Dorr family residence in Boston, and moreover wrote a few books on philosophy; in the close-knit Boston social scene, it seems extremely likely that these the two philosophically-engaged mountaineers would have known each other. And given what you say about the Kaufmann family's transatlantic connections, perhaps Rhodes (while in the Alps) learned that Christian would be in Canada the next season, and thus recommended Christian as a possible guide on Dorr's trip? It seems entirely possible, though would take a bit more hunting to nail it down; but perhaps there are other names in Christian's book that are more clear- cut cases of personal conenctions. Of course, it's also possible that Dorr just showed up and happened to engage Christian on the spot, without any previous recommendation - so, no assurance that such lines of inquiry would come to anything Cheers, Steve Steven Pavlos Holmes, Ph.D. Scholar-in-Residence at the Boston Nature Center, Mattapan, MA Home: 21 Eldridge Road, Jamaica Plain, MA 02130 USA 617-285-2832 Email: stevenpavlosholmes@gmx.com Alternate: stevenjholmes@post.harvard.edu https://facingthechangeanthology.wordpress.com/about-the-editor/ Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2018 at 2:08 PM From: Dreher Peter To: Ronald Epp Cc: Steven Holmes Subject: Re: Inquiry: George Bucknam Dorr Dear Steve and Ron, Thank you both for your kind e-mails. For the past few years, I have been researching several Swiss mountain guides from the late-nineteenth and early twentieth centuries, who climbed in the Alps and in Canada. Specifically, I am hoping to put together some biographies of Peter Kaufmann (1832-1903); Peter Kaufmann (1858-1924); Peter Kaufmann (1886-1971); Christian Kaufmann (1872-1939); Hans Kaufmann (1874-1930). I have been lucky enough to obtain copies of the Führerbücher of some of the guides. As you probably know these small "notebooks" are carried by the guides so that clients can write references or detail events about excursions. One of those references was written on September 28, 1902, by George B. Dorr of Boston. And now that you, Ron, mentioned some more details (e.g., Mt. Stephen, Abbott Pass), we can be sure it is indeed George B. Dorr. 3/22/2018 XFINITY Connect Sent Re: Inquiry: George Bucknam Dorr Ronald Epp 10:13 AM To Steven Holmes, Peter Dreher 1 attachment View Open in browser Download Hi, Just a couple of new items for consideration. Dale Schwie responded on the Gleason reference in Dorr's travel journal, stating that he only was able to find a "record of his negatives in the Concord Library, "Harebells, Field, B.C. August 18, 1902." This reference to the Blue Bells of Scotland that he photographed at least documents his presence in Field, B.C. the month before. I'll look further. But it is also notable that the village of Field, a railway work camp two decades earlier, will be associated with the Mount Stephen Reserve which in 1901 became the Yoho Park Reserve, gaining national park status in 1911. One wonders if Dorr was again sizing up the management challenges that faced such an elevation of status. But it is a matter of fact that in his travel journal he notes on September 19, 20, and 23rd his location in Field. Looking forward to hearing more from you. Best, Ron Ronald H. Epp, Ph.D. 7 Peachtree Terrace Farmington, CT 06032 603-491-1760 eppster2@comcast.net On March 19, 2018 at 10:58 AM Steven Holmes wrote: All very interesting! I'm intrigued at the thoiught of tracing some of the personal connections here. Peter, were there any other Bostonians represented in Kaufmann's book over the previous year or so? If so, perhaps Ron or I could figure out whether those are people Dorr might have known back home in Massachusetts, who might have told Dorr about Kaufmann's prowess as a guide before he ever got there. For example, looking at the Wikipedia entry on Peter Kaufmann, I notice you quote another Bostonian, Daniel P Rhodes, concerning his experiences in the Alps. Having time and inclination, a half-hour of Googling brought me the information that in 1901, Rhodes lived about 7-8 blocks away from the Dorr 8/9/2018 Xfinity Connect Re_Inquiry_George Bucknam Dorr Printout Dreher Peter 8/9/2018 8:32 PM Re: Inquiry: George Bucknam Dorr To Ronald Epp Copy Steven Holmes Dear Ron, How wonderful to hear from you! It is rewarding to hear that Christian Kaufmann's Fuhrerbuch entry created interest about Dorr's biography and about the individuals who may have influenced him. First, you may want to read my latest article on Christian Kaufmann on Wikipedia. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian Guide) Footnote #4 gives the reference to the Führerbuch: Kaufmann, Christian, Führerbuch, nach dem Reglement für die Bergführer und Träger vom 24. Juni 1892. Interlaken. 1892. Courtesy Elisa Wolf-Kaufmann & Heimatmuseum, Grindelwald. Christian Kaufmann's late grand-daughter first showed me the Führerbuch in 1990s, but it is now in the archives of the Heimatmusum, Grindelwald. Copies of the book are not openly available. Mr. Marco Bomio, the director of the museum, sent me a pdf copy of the Führerbuch (183 pages) about a year ago. I could send you a copy, if that would be helpful. Let me check with Bomio whether I am permitted to do SO. His position is honorary, so that he is often difficult to reach, especially since his guiding duties keep him in the mountains. But here is what I can tell you: There are no entries directly before or after Dorr's (September 28, 1902) comments. Aside from James Outram, there is only one other Canadian entry in 1902: Walter and Frances Weston, Wimbleton, England on May 23, 1902. As my article points out, these were important individuals: "The Westons were experienced mountaineers and are credited with introducing mountain climbing in Japan during the late-nineteenth century." On the page that I sent you earlier, Dorr mentions Christian Häsler-a good friend and colleague of Christian (who wrote Christian's obituary). You might see if Dorr climbed with Häsler independently or with other clients. If you cannot locate Häsler's Führerbuch, the Alpine Journal (London) has detailed reports on who climbed what with whom. Edward Feuz-Christian's rival-might also have guided Dorr that year. Since Christian spent many, many weeks climbing with James Outram in 1902, it is no wonder that there are few entries by other clients that year. But Christian may well have climbed with other unrecorded individuals. This may not really be helpful, since Dorr probably was not in Canada in 1903. But aside from the individuals mentioned in my new article, here are some of Christian's clients in 1903 Canada: James Reid Young of Scotland (Aug 12); Herschel Parker of Columbia University, NYC (July); Charles E Day; W. Clyde Jones, 100 Washington Str., Chicago, III. (July 30, 1903); Alex. F. Ormsbee, New York & Benj. F. Seaver, New York). York (August); Marion & Cecile Raymond, Boston/Cambridge, Mass. (August); W.C. & H.P. Rich, Minnesota (August); Gerard Collier (August); Victor von Bauer, Austria (August); W. Douglas (August); Aug. Eggers [?] (September). Good luck with your research! And keep in touch. I would be very interested to hear if other information surfaces about these Canadian days. Best wishes, Peter On Aug 9, 2018, at 5:23 PM, Ronald Epp < eppster2@comcast.net> wrote: Dear Peter and Steve, After too many months of silence about George Dorr's 1902 visit to the Canadian Rockies, I write to ask a question or two and tell you of my most recent initiative. I've just returned from Mount Desert where I have been showing Dorr's 9/28/1902 entry in the Fuhrerbucher. There is considerable enthusiasm for this discovery, Peter, and the need for a revision of the historical record, including a new emphasis on the extent of his knowledge of the national parks on the western edge of the continent. But as I read your email of 18 March, I would much appreciate more detail about where you secured this document since I have been unable to find it in WorldCat. They list more than a dozen such guidebook but not the one credited to Christian Kaufmann; the provenance for many is very sketchy as you have likely discovered on your own. Can you identify institutions which may have a copy? You see, I wonder whether the entries immediately before and after the Dorr entry might provide us with information about some of his companions. Will you check into this and provide me with copies? Pursuing this line of research might help me track his activity prior to the Selkirks and immediately afterwards. https://connect.xfinity.com/appsuite/v=7.8.4-27.20180621.065846/print.html?print_1533866518062 2/12 York (August); Marion & Cecile Raymond, Boston/Cambridge, Mass. (August); W.C. & H.P. Rich, Minnesota (August); Gerard Collier (August); Victor von Bauer, Austria (August); W. Douglas (August); Aug. Eggers [?] (September). Good luck with your research! And keep in touch. I would be very interested to hear if other information surfaces about these Canadian days. Best wishes, Peter On Aug 9, 2018, at 5:23 PM, Ronald Epp < eppster2@comcast.net> wrote: Dear Peter and Steve, After too many months of silence about George Dorr's 1902 visit to the Canadian Rockies, I write to ask a question or two and tell you of my most recent initiative. I've just returned from Mount Desert where I have been showing Dorr's 9/28/1902 entry in the Fuhrerbucher. There is considerable enthusiasm for this discovery, Peter, and the need for a revision of the historical record, including a new emphasis on the extent of his knowledge of the national parks on the western edge of the continent. But as I read your email of 18 March, I would much appreciate more detail about where you secured this document since I have been unable to find it in WorldCat. They list more than a dozen such guidebook but not the one credited to Christian Kaufmann; the provenance for many is very sketchy as you have likely discovered on your own. Can you identify institutions which may have a copy? You see, I wonder whether the entries immediately before and after the Dorr entry might provide us with information about some of his companions. Will you check into this and provide me with copies? Pursuing this line of research might help me track his activity prior to the Selkirks and immediately afterwards. https://connect.xfinity.com/appsuite/v=7.8.4-27.20180621.065846/print.html?print_1533866518062 2/12 8/12/2018 Xfinity Connecilizon WikiRAdia Dorr Printout When Lowell died in 1916, Putnam was placed in charge of investing Lowell's estate for the Observatorm Dreher Peter Putnam