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Travel-1925 Trip to Mesa Verde N.P. Superintendent Conference
TRAVEL: 1925 trip to Mesa
Verde N.P. Superintendent
Conference
HARBOR TIMES
AR HARSOR, MAINE, WEDNESDAY; SEPTEMBER 23, 1925
FIVE CENTS A COPY
THE
WESCOTT LEASES
SUPT. DORR LEAVES
POSTPONED EDEN
S FROM
DAYTONA HOTELS
FOR CONFERENCE
is Invite Public
Well-Known Bar Harbor Hotel Man
Will Represent Lafayette at Super-
WEEK USUA
hers at High
Takes Leases of Osceola-Grama-
intendents Conference Mesa
Iding
tan and Prince George at
Verde, Colorado
Florida Resort
Rain Fails to Dampen Enthus?
evinced in the
held at the High
Chester A. Wescott of the Newport
Superintendent George B. Dorr of
Lafayette National Park leaves Wednes-
ment or Crowds and Thirty
day evening. In
Hotel, Bar Harbor, and the Osceola-
Gramatan of Daytona, Florida, has just
day night, the 23rd, for Boston, on his
teen 8 and 9 the
Fair Enjoyed by all Fri
the High and the
returned from a week's business trip to
way to Mesa Verde National Park, in
Mancos, Colorado, where he will attend
Saturday
separate places
Florida where he was in conference with
ially, the parents
W. V. Lawrence, owner of the Osceola-
the conference of superintendents to be
held there under the direction of Ste-
is. At 9 o'clock
Gramatan from whom Mr. Wescott
Eden Fair, after postponement of two Lorraine
phen T. Mather, Director of the National
begins in the
has just taken a three-year lease of this
days because of rain, took place on Fri-
and Mrs.
splendid Florida Hotel.
Park Service, beginning October and
day and Saturday, with the races and
affair is being
the prize.
the High School
While in Florida, Mr. Lawrence and
lasting one week. Mr. Dorr expects to
baby show the outstanding features of
The jud
be back in Bar Harbor within three
interest.
nd his faculty
Mr. Wescott looked at the Prince
set for th
George, another well-known Daytona
weeks from the time of leaving. Supt.
ry large number
There was a very good attendance on
loveliest b
Dorr will be the only eastern man at
will encourage
hotel with the idea of buying it. Mr.
both days and the display of fruits,
been impo.
Lawrence has since bought the Prince
the big conference. Lafayette National
of the students
vegetables, canned goods, and fancy
weight, siz
first social affair
George and Mr. Wescott has taken a
Park is the only eastern representative of
work, was excellent. The races drew
to make de
lease of that as well as of the Osceola-
the Nation's great system of recreational
Principal West
the usual crowd of veteran horsemen of
was, as alw
areas. Already Washington has re-
the Island and there was some/ hot excite-
High school as
Gramatan, which, with the Newport
There W
quested Supt. Dorr to be prepared to
ment over the close finishes of the various
rs of the faculty
Hotel at Bar Harbor, make three large
farm mach
houses which the Bar Harbor hotel man
tell the gathering something about this
yone a cordial
contests for purses.
models and
absolutely unique area on Mount Desert
on which is for
has under lease.
The Friday races were won by Fox
attracted a
ols of the town
Mr. Wescott is most enthusiastic in
Island, the only park with sea frontage,
Trot, owned by Freddy/ York, in the
favorable c.
regard to the outlook for Florida this
the only park which has been the nation's
2.30 class; with Earl Jr., owned by Asa
The pou.
winter and will leave here the first of
wholly by free gift, and the only park
Grant, second: and Ruth S., owned by
good. The
STS TO
with colonial history.
next week to arrange for the early
A. W. McKusick, 3d This purse was
Sawyer Pc
$150.
CENTENNIAL
opening of the Prince George and later
Blacks, Giu
DEAN BEEKMAN TALKS TO
In the 2.24 class Ambassador owned
for the opening of the Osceola-Gramatan.
worth: Dc
LEGION AND FRIENDS
2 of Hancock
(Continued on page 4)
by E. S. Grindle took first money, with
White Plym
intregational
Madam Arlington, owned by Freddy
Walter K
Head of American Church in Paris
nisters in
York, second: and with Little Wonder,
Rocks, hen
Week
TEACHERST TO MEET
Tells of Work of American Le-
owned by Chaney Sadler and Nanny
White Legh
gion in France
Silk, owned by Alec Gray, splitting for
1st and 2d:
third.
Seeting of the
HERE TUESDAY
rei and pull
Dean F. W. Beekman, Departmental
The Saturday paces were the 2.01 and
Congregational
Rhode Islan
Chaplain of the American Legion in
the Free-for All. In the 2.21 Double C
will be held
Sawyer Po
and Church in
France, spoke to 2 group of George
owned by Will Penneroy took first and
Black Leg!
Hancock County Association Con-
Edwin Kirk Post members and a few
Madam Arlington 24 with Little Won-
y and Wednes
Black Min
vention in Bar Harbor, State
The Cen
friends at the Legion Post headquarters
der and Service Flag. the latter owned
Rhode Islan
Sup't. Thomas Coming
of
on Sunday evening. The meeting was
by Alec Gray, splitting for third.
1). J. Mek
arranged for by Mrs. A. Murray Young,
In the Free-for-Ali, E. S. Grindle's
of
chicks, Geor
The Hancock County Teachers
Miss F. M. Cottenet and Miss MacC
Tena Lakeview won 1st and Am-
Geese, C. F.
convertion will be held in Bar Harbor
loch Miller and it was one which takes
bassador owned by Mr. Griddle
King. 1st:
at the High whool building on Tuesday,
its place among the most interesting
also took second. with Will Harrington's
Reginald Kin
the Res
September 29. beginning at 9.30 in the
gatherings that have ever taken place
Prince Dell in third place.
The new
The
forention and closing in the afternoon
at Kirk Post headquarters. The dean
There were three classes in the Baby
herd of five
Dr. Augustus (1) Thomas, State Com-
was introduced by Commander Norman
Show and Christine Lorraine Thompson.
were four
missioner of Education at Augusta, will
Shaw of Kirk Post. A feature of great
daughter of Mr. and Mrs. Shirley
follows: Will
be the principal speaker. Chief Ranger
interest. too, was the presentation by
Thompson took the first prize in the
Russell. 2d:
Benjamin 1. Hailey of Lafayette Na-
Miss Miller of a silver heart. a French
Class A. habjus, 3 months to 6 months
Rain and
tronal Park will tell the teachers about
votive offering, from Dr. Robert Abbe,
In Class B. 7 to 10 months, Harriet
Downs, Charl
the only eastern representative of the
a beloved member of the Post. This was
Hodgkins, daughter of Mr. and Mrs.
winner on th
(II)
nation great recreational areas.
a gift to the Doctor from a friend who
Dallas Hodgkins, took the prize.
shire Downs
ar
The program is as follows:
church in
In Class C. 10 months to 13 months
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G.B.D.
PHOTOGRAPH
OF THE
MEMBERS OF THE EIGHTH CONFIRINCE
NATIONAL PARE
Background - Spruce Tree once, Mesa Verde park
Resca.ic fro: Left to Right
BACK ROW, STANDING:- Nathan V. lorgan; Charles J. Kraebel;
F. W. Schmoe, Jesse L. Nusbaum: R. T. Evens; D. H. Lutfell;
C. P. Russell; J. Ross Eskin; Roger it. Toll; Dr. Joseoh Bolten;
Colonel J. R. White, Ansel hall; H. B. Hommon, B. Cannerer;
Stephen T. Mather; Rolln D. Clopp; Geo. B. Dorr; Dr. L. I. Heves.
#
FRONT ROW, KNEELING:- O.
Tomlinson; W. I. Hawlins;
Jose h Joffe; Thos. C. Vint; Forest L. Carter; Roy siszell;
Fronk Finkley; W. B. Levis; Deric Nusbaun; Dan R. Hull;
Horace 11. Albright; 0. G. Thorson.
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Catalog Number: HPC-
001098
Approximate Year: 1925
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Park: Mesa Verde National Park
W.O. 73
Photographer: Cammerer, Arno B.
Theme: Events, NPS
Personnel
Description: Glimpses of Superintendents at
conference.
Eminent Photographer: Arno
B. Cammerer (1860-1940)
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the superint endents should know about.
Superintendents Urged to Know Other Parks
"I want the superintendents to know other areas and not only
their own parks, and a knowledge of the scenery that lies outside
the parks. There is a world of scenery outside tying in between
our parks, and I hope the superintendents will be able to take in
other sections than you did coming out here, in order that you may
get 2 better idea of this wonderful country from the Rocky Mountains
to the Pacific Coast.
"I think one of the things which should be pushed is to show
the reilroad people that they must continue to keep up their share
of the trevel to the parks by advertising whole sections. Mr.
Harry Chandler of the Los Angeles Times has been putting up a
proposition to the people in Portland to advertise the whole Coast,
and not by individual sections. The railroads have become
in-
terested in the proposition and will probably carry on some of their
advertising with it. It is one of the biggest propositions which
has been planned for publicity for the whole West.
"Never before have I found so much interest by people in the
cities in park problems. I was very much impressed by the spirit
shown at a meeting held by the Oakland Forum in San Francisco,
From there I went up to Stockton and I realized through work done
by Elmer Reynolds, and his Stockton Record, that his work has helped
to educate people of Stockton in a most narvelous way. He has
really done a great work in making that a sort of national park town,
and with Elmer Reynolds present here, I want to pay him that tribute
for the great work he is doing. Rosenthal with the Oakland Tribune
is
trying to do the same thing. Perhaps very big cities do not get
it the same way, but cities like Stockton seem to have a little
time
for looking into things that are really worth while and count so much
in this life of ours.
The Problem of Automobile Fees
"One thing I want you all to be thinking about is the question
of automobile fees. I have been discussing the question of fees
with members of automobile clubs of California, I have discussed it
with Lr. Crawton and a little bit with one or two of you. I believe
that if we are going to continue the fees we have got to be in a
position to frankly defend them and have logical arguments for them.
I am beginning to think that when we have 3 road across the country,
an absolutely necessary highway across the country as will be the
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Giant Forest Conditions
In speaking of conditions in Giant Forest COLONEL WHITE told how
it had become necessary to close certain areas to travel in order to pre-
serve the natural conditions, and that in congested areas, it is going to
be necessary to assign some men to the task of restoring native conditions,
and added:
"We early recognized that the Giant Forest community, like Topsy,
just growed. It is impossible to handle large numbers of people
around the big trees without doing harm. At the General Shermur tree
I put over three or four feet of dirt around it. The automobiles
have been pounding around the trees. We have posted logs there CO
keep the automobiles away and we have restored dirt so that the growth
is coming up fine again."
Colonel White said that he had been trying to get his rangers
to study ferns, and with regard to the removal of camps in his park he
stated, that he believed it was going to be necessary to have the camps
in a non-scenic, or non-wooded area, and that if he could develop
smaller areas with native vegetation between it would be preferable.
Lafayette Park Educational Work
MR. DORR made it known that in Lafayette Park the nature work
has been done independently of the Government. He described the Marine
Biological Station there. When asked about the Sequoia trees in his
park Mr. Dorr stated that they were doing very well and, that they are
grown under glass in winter. He said that one thing he did wish to do
in his park is to pick out certain exceptional lly favorable areas and bring
into them the plants they have lost, and make them wild gardens represent-
ing the native flora of a large region.
ROCKI Mountain Park Educational Work
In speaking about the educational work in Rocky Mountain Park
R. TOLL said:
"The educational work there began three years 230 with the em-
ployment of a ranger naturalist for a three months period. This
has been continued for the past two years, What we need now to make
the work successful is to have a lecture hall where the talks can be
given directly in a Covernment building under Government suspices.
As it is now there is one large hotel, and three smaller ones that
are operating under franchise. Then just outside the park boundary
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MR. MATHER stated that the worst situation in this respect would
be in California where the climate is warm, and he cited specific instances
where people came into the parks, and stayed for a considerable time but
caused no difficulties. He said that he did not believe we were following
a bad policy by letting a man stay around a park, but that we do want to be
on the lookout for the automobile hobo who comes to the park and stays, and
becomes a charge on the Park or his fellow campers.
Housekeeping Cabins
With regard to housekeeping cabins MR. EAKIN stated that practic-
ally all municipal campgrounds, and other campgrounds along the highways
provide cabins, in which are a bed and some crude cooking utensils, that
people coming to the Grand Canyon expect to find similar conditions there,
but that it has been necessary to tell them that they are not available.
MR. ALBRIGHT stated that the park utilities should be made to put
in such cabins and that this practice was already being followed in the
Yellowstone, the utilities making the installation.
MR. LEWIS expressed the belief that it is a proposition that
should be handled entirely by the park utilities.
MR. LATHER stated that this was a problem for each superintendent
to handle, that they should take the matter up with their own operators,
and have them provide this kind of accommodation. He also asked assistant
Landscape Engineer Vint to look over this type of accommodation, and work
out something from the National Park Service point of view, as he believed
that the cabin idea or something similar to it will have to be developed in
the national park campgrounds.
Campgrounds in Lafayette Park
MR. MATHER then explained the condition of the canpgrounds in
Lafayette Park, telling how M.R. DORR was utilizing for campgrounds places
CBT.
away from the absolutely scenic areas and how he is thereby solving his
future problems when great crowds begin to come.
Cooperation With Forest Service
MR. LEVIS and MR. ALBRIGHT told of conditions on approach roads to
their parks where cooperation with the Forest Service has resulted in elini--
nating promiscuous concessions, gasoline stations, unsightly buildings, etc.
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Zion Park Superintendent
SUPERINT INDENT EVANS of Zion National Park, accompanied by Mrs.
Evans, drove a new Dodge Touring Car. The trip from Zion to Price, Utah
was made without any other cars but at Price he joined lir. ilbright's car-
avan and continued with it to Mesa Verde Park. His itinerary and comments
follow:
Sept. 28
Zion Park to Richfield, Utah
183 miles
29
Richfield to Price, Utah.
151
30
Price to Monticello, Utah
195
Oct.
1
Monticello to liesa Verde Park
115
6
Hesa Verde to Ouray, Colo
146
7
Ouray to Cisco, Utah
170
8
Cisco to Castledale, Utah
163
9
Castledale to Cedar City, Utah
219
10
Cedar City to Zion Park
65
Total Mileage
1,385 miles.
"Personally I consider my trip a liberal education and a privi-
lege. Geographical knowledge can never be too great as it permits one
to answer intelligently various questions burled at National Park offi-
ciels daily. Ey route lay through colorful southern Utah with the
flaming sandstones between Price and Loab, the walls near Hoab where
the Colorado River enters the Grand Canyon formation, the natural
bridges and windows south of Moab; and returning through the mountains
of southvestern Colorado where perhaps I saw the finest mountains in
height, shape and color that are not included in a national park. The
real reason, of course, for the detour through Silverton and Ouray was
the Million Dollar Highway which displayed the fine points of the
really modern mountain highway to the park superintendent who is watch-
ing the building of roads in his own park.
"The conference established acqueintanceship between the park offi
ciels and their Taried problems, begot 2 feeling of help from others
and a real inspiration from the leaders that national park affairs are
in very casable Lands indeed. I wish to repeat that it was a priv-
ilege to be present. There is neither time nor space here to properly
describe Mesa Verde Park and its charming superintendent and wife."
Wind Cave Park Superintendent
SUPERINTENDENT BRAZELL ent from Wind Cave Nat. Park to Denver by
train, t'Lence to liesa Verde Park with Superintendent Toll of Rocky Mountain
Parl.
On the return trip be truveled entirely by train.
Platt Pirl Superintendent
SUPERINTENDENT CERTER made the trio from Platt Park to Mesa Verde
Park, 2nd return, by train.
Lafayette Park Superintendent
SUPERINTEND IN DORD made the trip from Icfayette Park to liesa
Verde Park, and return, by train.
G.B.D.
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MONUMENTS,
AND
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Stephen T. Mather, Superintendent's Conference, October 1925, Mesa Verde National Park. (NPS)
Any account of the National Park Service must begin with the parks that preceded it and prompted its creation.
The national park concept is generally credited to the artist George Catlin. On a trip to the Dakotas in 1832, he worried
about the impact of America's westward expansion on Indian civilization, wildlife, and wilderness. They might be
preserved, he wrote, "by some great protecting policy of government in a magnificent park A nation's park,
containing man and beast, in all the wild and freshness of their nature's beauty!"
Catlin's vision was partly realized in 1864, when Congress donated Yosemite Valley to California for preservation as a
state park. Eight years later, in 1872, Congress reserved the spectacular Yellowstone country in the Wyoming and
Montana territories "as a public park or pleasuring-ground for the benefit and enjoyment of the people." With no state
government there yet to receive and manage it, Yellowstone remained in the custody of the U.S. Department of the
Interior as a national park-the world's first area SO designated.
Congress followed the Yellowstone precedent with other national parks in the 1890s and early 1900s, including Sequoia,
Yosemite (to which California returned Yosemite Valley), Mount Rainier, Crater Lake, and Glacier. The idealistic
impulse to preserve nature was often joined by the pragmatic desire to promote tourism: western railroads lobbied for
many of the early parks and built grand rustic hotels in them to boost their passenger business.
The late nineteenth century also saw growing interest in preserving prehistoric Indian ruins and artifacts on the public
lands. Congress first moved to protect such a feature, Arizona's Casa Grande Ruin, in 1889. In 1906 it created Mesa
Verde National Park, containing dramatic cliff dwellings in southwestern Colorado, and passed the Antiquities Act
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