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Surprising revelation intimacies in the letters between Dr Eliot Dorr and JDJ Jr Jesup Memorial Lib Aug 10,2016
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Charles W. Eliot, George B. Dorr & John D. Rockefeller Jr."
Ronald H. Epp. Ph.D.
"Surprising Revelations:
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Intimacies in the Letters
August 10, 2016
Between Charles W. Eliot,
Earlier this year I proposed to Ruth Eveland several topics for a
centennial presentation at the Jesup Memorial Library. The topic
George B. Dorr & John D.
of intimacies in the letters of the most prominent park founders
was strongly preferred.
Rockefeller Jr.," Jesup
This is not a subject I discussed in my biography of George B.
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Dorr. Indeed, preparation of forced my reopening of
research materials which proved more challenging than I
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physical structures that bear the design imprint of Mr. Dorr (the
others being Oldfarm's Storm Beach Cottage, the park office at
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external manifestations of Dorr's impact: nor will I enter here into
the emphasis that other local historians have given to the
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differences between Dorr, Eliot, and Rockefeller. Frankly, my
research has shown that their personalities were more similar
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TITLE: Surprising Revelations: Intimacies
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Eliot, George B. Dorr & John D.
Rockefeller Jr.
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NAMED Eliot - Charles Willam Eliot (1834-
PERSON: 1926)
Dorr - George Bucknam Dorr
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Rockefeller - John Davison
Rockefeller, Jr. (1874-1960)
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"Surprising Revelations: Intimacies in the Letters Between
Charles W. Eliot, George B. Dorr & John D. Rockefeller Jr."
Ronald H. Epp, Ph.D.
Jesup Memorial Library
August 10, 2016
Earlier this year I proposed to Ruth Eveland several topics for a
centennial presentation at the Jesup Memorial Library. The topic
of intimacies in the letters of the most prominent park founders
was strongly preferred.
This is not a subject I discussed in my biography of George B.
Dorr. Indeed, preparation of this talk forced my reopening of
research materials which proved more challenging than I
expected. I needed relaxation after fifteen years of research and
writing, not re-immersion in the difficult craft of writing. But the
topic was rich in potential and like Mr. Dorr I embrace the notion
of persistence.
So here I am in mid-August in one of four surviving island
physical structures that bear the design imprint of Mr. Dorr (the
others being Oldfarm's Storm Beach Cottage, the park office at
COA, and the park Abbe Museum). I am not here to talk about
external manifestations of Dorr's impact; nor will I enter here into
the emphasis that other local historians have given to the
differences between Dorr, Eliot, and Rockefeller. Frankly, my
research has shown that their personalities were more similar
than the dissimilarities promoted by Sargent Collier, R.W. Hale
Jr., Judith S. Goldstein, and H. Eliot Foulds. All of us agree lon
one point, however, that these park founders appreciate the
achievements of one another, exchanged ideas, offered
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encouragement, and expressed candid feelings about a wide
array of topics. Especially during the years 1917-1923, each was
indispensable to the others.
instead, I want to draw your attention to selected examples of a
much favored and rarely used term of an earlier era. That is, the
word "intimate." Its usage in letters written by Dr. Eliot, George
B. Dorr, and John D. Rockefeller Jr. at the end of the Gaslight Era
provides previously unexplored biographical insights.
The concept of intimacy is historically associated with couples,
more commonly with those of an opposite gender involved in a
sexual relationship. An Internet search of this concept discloses
tens of thousands of references that relate predominantly to
couples therapy. Indeed, it is not surprising for couples to state
that there is intimacy in verbal, written, and body language
where the unstated is a form of innermost disclosure. That is why
the intimacy language in correspondence between males a
century ago caught my attention. What significance should a
historian assign to it? Is it employed casually or with restraint?
What does it connote? When JDR Jr. writes of his "intimate
association" with Dorr, can we discover the core elements that
underlie his use of a term that we might suppose he reserved for
his family? Even in its explicit absence, is intimacy implied
contextually and over time?
I assume here that men have no less a need for intimacy than
women, regardless of the gender of the partner. Yet throughout
western culture, male expression of intimacies is commonly
suppressed or denied; in the Gaslight Era when intimacy
language was used by males, quiet concerns about the
effeminacy of the speaker usually followed. Rarely are intimacies
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expressed verbally without metaphorical diversions. Even in our
own day, when private feelings and convictions are given the
solidity of the written word there is the tacit acknowledgement
that something akin to courage has been added. Why? Because
words in a document have a standing in law and history not
rivaled by undocumented verbal expression. Moreover, since all
three relied on secretaries to transcribe dictated or written
comments, there is no extreme concern with privacy. A case in
point is this specific talk, exploring the words preserved in
archives across the county. In my research, I wondered if Dorr,
Eliot, and Rockefeller were consciously writing for posterity,
crafting letters to secure public approbation.
Let us assume that intimacy refers to close acquaintance,
familiarity, or association with another involving the sharing of
one's innermost character (be it mental or emotionally-based).
The interpersonal term also connotes trust, friendship, love, and
privacy. But as we ponder our own relationships, are we intimate
with others in a comprehensive sense of the word? That is, does
intimacy refer to expressions about the whole of one's inner life?
Keep this question in mind as we look at how Dr. Eliot and Mr.
Rockefeller expressed their beliefs about one another--and Mr.
Dorr. We might be surprised to learn that in the surviving letters
the expression of innermost feelings does not range far and
wide-instead, they are quite subject specific. In behaving this
way, they might not be all that different from the rest of us.
The large number of letters exchanged which reflect intimacy
issues cannot be catalogued tonight. It will have to suffice that I
concentrate here on Mr. Rockefeller's letters to Eliot and Dorr, in
part because his archive is the most comprehensive and he sent
more letters to the two than he received from them.
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February 1915 should be considered the nexus of the Dorr-Eliot-
JDR relationship. Dr. Eliot is in the last decade of his life, JDR is
rapidly expanding his carriage roads and purchasing properties
that he deems worthy of preservation, and Dorr prepares a
lengthy summary for Eliot of Trustee property acquisitions-and
financial needs for further preparation of title and property
histories for the federal government. (Harvard University. CWE
Papers. B.95. Dorr to Eliot. 2.24.15) Their correspondence is
formal but Eliot reframes Dorr's summary within the context of
the history of the HCTPR and the VIA's, requesting $15,000 for
national monument expenses. Partial support is secured. The
Eliot-JDR relationship deepens.
In 1919, shortly after securing national park status, Eliot again
writes to JDR about the expenses of securing deeds and titles for
lands west of Somes Sound. But now the letters are less formal
and more familiar, Eliot expressing admiration for Dorr's
extensive knowledge of island history, flora and fauna, and the
status of properties being pursued; but Eliot's efforts to procure
lists of Dorr's works in progress have "totally failed," which he
describes as a "hopeless case," for Dorr "lives in such a
preposterous way as respects the care of his health, and takes so
many absurd risks in rushing about the Island that we are likely
to lose him any day by disease or accident." (Rockefeller Archive
Center. III.2.I. B. 59.f.441. Eliot to JDR. 9.3.19) Familiarity is
again manifest when Eliot expresses concerns that he will not be
able to adequately support his "children, grandchildren, and GGC,
when my pension ceases."
As the months pass letters between the three become more
familiar, more complementary, and more directly concerned with
Dorr's well being even as Dorr repeatedly authorizes JDR "to do
work along any such lines on your behalf as I may feel disposed
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to do." (Sawtelle Archives and Research Center. Acadia National
park. B.45.f.1.9.18.22) JDR writes of his "genuine satisfaction
and pleasure" found in cooperating with Dorr's "splendid work."
He concludes with atypical written praise:
"I cannot close this letter without expressing my appreciation of
the unselfish, untiring and devoted service which you have
rendered in bringing the Park into being and are continuing to
render in its upbuilding and development."
On the other hand, letters between Eliot and Rockefeller about
Dorr are few and far between. They focus on concern for Dorr's
well-being and his departures from standard administrative
practices. If this be taken as criticism such comments are always
balanced by praise for Dorr's conspicuous virtues as when Eliot
defends Dorr to criticism of his administrative practices by Ellen
Bullard, the daughter of Eliot's sister Elizabeth. (See R. Epp,
Creating Acadia National Park, p. 171)
There is a series of Eliot letters just two years shy of his death to
Interior Secretary Hubert Work that provide a final statement of
what Dorr meant to Eliot. When certain islanders objected to
continuing "intrusion" into the mountainous core of the Park, an
important Washington DC hearing was held in March 1924. Eliot
wrote in support of the Dorr-Rockefeller plans, describing Dorr as
"a man of extraordinary public spirit...[who] expended a
considerable fortune which has now all gone into public and semi-
public undertakings. [yet as] a public official he has one defect
against which precautions can be easily taken. He is liable to talk
too long about any business which interests him." (Eliot Papers.
B.95. 2.1.1924)
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Seven weeks later just as the hearing is to open, Eliot writes a
500-word letter on "the quality and character of George B. Dorr."
This document qualifies as an expression of intimacy because it
reflects more than seven decades of Eliot-Dorr family interaction
and contains Eliot's own reference to his "intimate relations" [with
Dorr] for at least thirty years. I know of no other extended
private expression by Eliot that rivals its expansiveness. Suffice it
to report that therein Dorr is described as "a man of the highest
probity and the keenest sense of ..incapable of any
disloyalty to friend, employer, or official superior, or any
disingenuousness towards critics or opponents." (Eliot Papers. B.
95. 3.22.1924)
If this strikes one as lacking specificity, compare it with
Rockefeller's "somewhat belated" note to Eliot on his 90th birthday
for "you have been an example and an inspiration to me in many
ways. The uniform dignity and courtliness of your bearing your
unfailing courtesy, your splendid self control, your enormous
capacity for work, the painstaking exactness with which you
study the details of every problem upon which you pass
judgment, your magnificent breadth of view, your clear insight
and your keen vision have long commanded my profound
admiration. I have counted it a high privilege to have the more
intimate association with you which life on the Maine coast has
made possible."
In hindsight, we might regard these expressions as lacking
emotional force. Rockefeller understands the matter differently,
for he states that this "personal tribute [reflects] the deep
feeling of regard and esteem" in which he has held Eliot for many
years. (RAC. B. 59. f.441. 4.8.24) I know of no document in the
massive Rockefeller Archive Center that is comparable-as a
personal tribute-to the aforementioned quote!
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No less an authority on the Harvard's president than philosopher
Ralph Barton Perry described Eliot as "a man of exquisite
tenderness of feeling towards those of his own family circle. A
quality of homeliness and simplicity was deeper in him than that
lawful aspect of dignity which he wore in his public appearances."
Paraphrasing Perry, it is fair to judge a man by what he admires
as well as by what he is. ("Charles William Eliot," New England
Quarterly, 1931) Eliot's 1903 essay on a "New Definition of the
Cultivated Man," contained an unconscious statement of his
personal ideal that comes remarkably close to the Eliot that Dorr
and Rockefeller had known intimately: "He is not to be a weak,
critical, fastidious creature [but] a man of quick perception,
broad sympathies and wide affinities; responsive, but
independent; self-reliant, but deferential; loving truth and
candor, but also moderation and proportion; courageous, but
gentle; not finished, but perfecting." (Present College Questions
[New York: D. Appleton & Co., 1903]).
While we have no way to know whether Eliot here is deliberately
self-referential, we might well infer that these are qualities in
other men that attracted him, that cultivated intimacy over time.
But bear in mind, this essay is a public pronouncement. Eliot well
recognized the differences between public and private
statements. Between face-to-face utterances and the more
deliberative drafting in solitude of one's innermost thoughts.
Mr. Rockefeller makes a similar point about the inflated value of
the written word when he writes to Dorr that "I am committed to
nothing [regarding park development] except as such
commitments have been or may be made in writing." (RAC. B.
85.f. 839. 8.14.22) While Rockefeller's biographers note his
economy with verbal expression, there is little economy in his
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official and personal correspondence with Dr. Eliot and Mr. Dorr.
To the contrary, he provides information, analysis, and
statements of significance that convinced me that Rockefeller
placed great stock in the worth of the recipient; otherwise, he
would have opted for brevity or delegated this responsibility to
someone in the Rockefeller organization rather than committing
personal time and energy to enlarging the understanding of one
of his intimates.
David Rockefeller's 2002 autobiography explains that "the
procedure Father preferred whenever we had something
important to deal with, especially an issue with significant
emotional content, was an exchange of letters even when we
were living under the same roof." (Memoirs, p. 18) This method
was applied to other Rockefeller intimates, perhaps in part
because unlike the spontaneity of the spoken word, the written
word-even when dictated-can be refined, clarified, and more
deeply reflect conscious intent.
Frankly, in my research I was routinely overwhelmed by the
magnitude of Rockefeller's attentiveness to all manner of issues
relating to the development of the park and to those most closely
responsible. Like Rockefeller's biographer-Raymond B. Fosdick-
I too wondered where Rockefeller found the time amid all his
projects for such narrative productivity?
Fosdick says that even in his youth Rockefeller "was a master of
detail. And it must be admitted that he loved it. He was a
perfectionist, with an abhorrence of anything that was shoddy or
second-rate...[And Acadia was] the kind of project which appealed
to him strongly. It was a virgin enterprise, and to a perfectionist
..this meant that the work would not be hampered by the
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precedent of inferior standards nor would the scope of the project
be limited by a preconceived plan...More than any other park to
which Mr. Rockefeller has contributed, Acadia bears the marks of
his own persistent care and effort." (R. Fosdick, John D.
Rockefeller Jr. A Portrait (New York: Harper & Brothers, 1956, pp.
304-305)
This care dovetailed with the establishment of the NPS and as we
have seen the new Interior Department organization has always
been in "a relatively weak position in securing congressional
authorizations and appropriations, it very much needed private
sector support, and Junior became by far the leader in providing
it...[That is, his] devotion to conservation. [was] in consonance
with the Progressive era...[and] in aiding the development of
tourist facilities and carriage roads at Acadia, his purpose was to
bring the public in to enjoy the park under proper conditions that
would preserve its beauty, not to create a protected haven for the
exclusive use of wealthy summer residents." (John Harr & Peter J.
Johnson, The Rockefeller Century [New York: Charles Scribner's
Sons, 1988, pp. 199-200)
That heightened degree of engagement is evident a decade
earlier (1900-1910) when Fosdick recalls that "the mass
of...duties and functions is almost unbelievable...business and
philanthropic problems on a gigantic scale [and] the gradual
assumption of leadership in family matters as both his father
and mother seemed to lean on him increasingly for advice and
counsel in intimate questions relating to the domestic circle."
(John D. Rockefeller Jr., p. 106) Notice Fosdick's implication that
the concept of "intimacy" ranges beyond domesticity.
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In 1929-three years after Eliot's death, it is noteworthy that
Rockefeller uses the expression "intimately" in a non-emotional
context when he writes to an Olmsted architect (H.V. Hubbard) a
2,000 word letter and therein describes Dorr as "a man of great
personal magnetism, extraordinary culture, splendid background,
and my warm personal friend." The comment that follows is most
germane: that is, that "Dorr's projects and my projects are very
intimately inter-related and inter-dependent. Neither of us can
develop our ideas most fully or most satisfactorily without the
complete cooperation of the other. For many years I have
enjoyed a close friendship, with Mr. Dorr, and we have
cooperated most fully, cordially, and harmoniously in developing
these common plans.. [for] Acadia National Park." (RAC. B.110.f.
1097. JDRJr. to Henry V. Hubbard. 9.18.29)
But surely prefacing "inter-related and inter-dependent" with the
term "very" and "intimately" adds something. What? All that we
can logically infer is that Rockefeller was consciously trying to
convey the depth and breadth of their freely chosen co-
dependency, especially since the remaining paragraphs stress
road development sites where he and Dorr are not of one mind.
He clearly wants Olmsted architect Henry Hubbard to realize that
these issues are subordinate to the relationship between Dorr and
Rockefeller.
Shortly after the death of Stephen Mather, as Dorr approached
his 80th birthday, Rockefeller reiterates his concerns to attorney
Harry Lynam about Dorr's reluctance to prepare an inventory of
his "personal real estate holdings as well as property owned by
the Wild Gardens, the Park, and JDR Jr. He urges Lynam to "work
together. to help Mr. Dorr so arrange his affairs that what he
really desires to have done with this property after he passes on
will be done." And then Rockefeller adds, "His lack of experience
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in matters of this kind may result in his not knowing how best to
accomplish that end." Now, this can be taken as paternalistic,
administratively presumptive, or even intrusive. But taken within
the context of all relevant correspondence, it is rightly understood
as an expression of intimacy. (RAC.B. 85.f.840. 5.4.33)
As a counterpoint, following a summer illness, Junior writes Dorr
two months (August 2, 1933) later that he should take care to
"not do any more imprudent things like sliding down Green
Mountain in the snow drifts, as I saw you do some years ago.
[For] You are greatly needed in this world and particularly on this
island. I would not know what to do without you here and you
and I must live at least to see the projected automobile [loop]
road completed and then for a long time thereafter to plan other
worthwhile development of the island."
A year later on his 81st birthday, Dorr receives from Rockefeller a
letter which disparages "milestone" letters and yet affirms that
"Mrs. Rockefeller and I count our friendship with you as one of
the happiest of the many delightful things that have come into
our lives as a result of our having made MDI our summer
residence. [I cannot think] of any other person with sufficient
patience, kindliness and tact to have accomplished so difficult an
undertaking [as the establishment of ANP]...During these many
years [contact with you] has been a constant pleasure and
happiness to me."
Dorr surely was more reserved in the written expression of
intimacies. While the scope of this talk limits references to these
expressions, there is an indication that unlike Mr. Rockefeller, the
spoken word conveyed momentary intimacy. In a September
1940 letter to JDR Jr. he remarks philosophically that he "...has
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been living, of late especially, in the great tragic drama of the
world whose every passing stage comes to us so wonderfully
through the radio, which gives it an immediate reality no printed
word can do." (RAC. B. 85.f.840. 9.28.1940)
Yet as I've shown in my biography, Dorr embodied the FDR
maxim of "Action, and action now!" A telling little known example
of this is revealed in a September 1939 letter typed on Oldfarm
stationary, a follow up to a conversation a day or two earlier
when Rockefeller offered the name of one of his sons in response
to Dorr's question about which son would "most likely...take
permanent interest in the work that we have done [here on
Mount Desert]."
Thirty-one year old Nelson was the father's response. Dorr then
gives Nelson a cherished eight-foot high Sheraton-style
Mahogony clock that Dorr received several decades earlier from
Mrs. John Innes Kane (he was a great grandson of John Jacob
Astor), who--with her husband--had given Dorr for the future
national park Dry (later Dorr) mountain, the Tarn below, and the
Gorge beyond. Dorr recalls the personal importance of time-
keeping throughout his life and concludes that "as my journey
ends that this gift of Mrs. Kane's shall find place with the on-
coming generation and carry on to it, and others still, the
memory of the Park's formation." Other than a few gifts
demarcated in the Dorr's will, this gift appears to have had
singular importance; since no gift could possibly rival the
possessions of the father, Dorr enlists JDR Jr. in selecting Nelson
as the conservation torch-bearer.
More so, Dorr thinks that Nelson's membership in the Dorr
Foundation would be one way to accomplish ongoing conservation
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goals. Rockefeller again compliments Dorr for preserving the
island "for the enjoyment of all the people [for] no one knows
better than I do how important it is and how unselfishly you have
given of your time, your thought, your strength and your means
to the accomplishment of the desired end. I rejoice in what you
have done and am proud to have been your silent partner in
some phases of the work..... shall think of you often, and always
with admiration and affection." (RAC. B. 85. f. 840. 9.9.39 &
9.15.39)
In the end, Dorr exhausted his fortune to assemble the properties
that became Acadia National Park. It is no small irony that in Mr.
Rockefeller, he found a partner for over three decades who was
charmed as well by the beauty of the Mount Desert Island. As
with Eliot, in their collaboration important choices were made and
paths followed that would not have been pursued had each
followed a solitary course. Rockefeller's "actions are curiously
symbolic-writes their contemporary conservationist, Fairfield
Osborn-for much of the wealth that has made his munificent
contributions for the purposes of conservation has been derived
from the [oil extracted] from the depths of the earth. This wealth
has, in turn, been distributed for the preservation of
resources. on the surface of the earth [by his son]. He is part of a
self-created epic that expresses the completion of a cycle."
Friends of Acadia former president W. Kent Olson seized upon the
the financial backing that Mr. Rockefeller provided, the vision of
Dr. Eliot, and the "tireless" benefaction of George Dorr. Many
others have stressed other character traits that contributed to
their joint success. What I've tried to show here is that there is
sound evidence in their letters that above and beyond singular
attributes was the implicit acceptance by each of a personal ideal
that Eliot described in his 1911 "Cultivated Man" essay: "broad
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sympathies and wide affinities; responsive, but independent; self-
reliant, but deferential; loving truth and candor, but also
moderation and proportion not finished, but perfecting." These
were the core character traits that framed their success in
developing Acadia National Park. As intimate friends, these
attributes could be expressed- -- but more often than not, were
not. In this lies their humanity.
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Re: Epp August talk
From : Marie Yarborough
Tue, Sep 13, 2016 09:24 AM
Subject : Re: Epp August talk
To : Ruth Eveland
Cc : Ronald Epp
Thank you Ron! I have printed a copy for our archives~
Best, Marie
On Sat, Sep 10, 2016 at 5:14 PM, Ruth Eveland wrote:
I am delighted to receive this. I'm going to ask Kathy to include a printed copy in our Special Collection material.
Even though it is on the page, I heard your voice throughout as I read it!
Thanks,
Ruth
Ruth A. Eveland
Director
Jesup Memorial Library
34 Mt. Desert Street
Bar Harbor, Maine 04609
207/288-4245 (library); 207/610-2355 (cell)
reveland@jesuplibrary.org
www.jesuplibrary.org
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On Sat, Sep 10, 2016 at 4:22 PM, Ronald Epp wrote:
Dear Ruth,
Attached is the slightly revised copy of my August 10th talk.
I am also putting in snail mail copies of three letters exchanged between George Dorr and Thomas DeWitt Cuyler--
a fellow Pennsylvanian, owner of a Northeast Harbor cottage, and nephew of Mrs. Jesup--concerning the Jesup Memorial Path. These have
not been seen by the public and supplement the groundbreaking work of Margie Coffin Brown in her Pathmakers (2006).
I found these in the Chapman Archive (B. 143. D52) and think that they belong in your special collections until the originals are under your
roof.
All the Best,
Ron Epp
From: "Ruth Eveland"
To: "Ronald Epp"
Sent: Friday, September 9, 2016 1:52:11 PM
Subject: Re: copy of your August talk?
Ron,
We did indeed have a solid series of programs this summer. Catch your breath and I look forward to receiving your revised remarks. I will
think about any points that have been ongoing food for thought for me or from others.
Ah, yes, the CLIR application. As the visitor season winds down that will wind up. So much of my time now is channeled toward our
development work, but that is critical to our future so I will make sure it happens. Fingers crossed that Bill's work will yield additional boxes
for future endeavors as well.
Thanks,
Ruth
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Director
Jesup Memorial Library
34 Mt. Desert Street
Bar Harbor, Maine 04609
207/288-4245 (library); 207/610-2355 (cell)
reveland@jesuplibrary.org
www.jesuplibrary.org
Jesup Memorial Library: "Anchor to the Past; Chart to the Future"
On Fri, Sep 9, 2016 at 12:43 PM, Ronald Epp wrote:
Hi Ruth,
I just returned home over the Labor Day weekend. I was greeted by six copies of the Islander that accumulated in my absence and I
intended to write to you about what I've discovered in reading past issues: that I missed far too
much at the Jesup because of conflicts with the seven other talks I gave locally in August and my reluctance to
stay on MDI for evening events and face the hour drive "home" to Blue Hill. The Jesup programming was spectacular!
Indeed, I will send a copy of my Jesup talk over the weekend. First I need to make a few editorial corrections.
I'm pleased that some of the language dovetails with donor advancement efforts. Which reminds me that I need to
locate the Jesup Friends of the Library application you handed me.
Since we last spoke, I've received invitations to speak to the Maine Historical Society and the incomparable
Massachusetts Historical Society. I'm considering how I can introduce the intimacy theme into those talks. If
you have any ideas about what resonated well at the Jesup, please let me know.
And then there is the next CLIR application.
All My Best,
Ron
From: "Ruth Eveland"
To: "Ronald Epp"
Sent: Friday, September 9, 2016 12:17:59 PM
Subject: copy of your August talk?
Ron,
I know that you and Annie, our fundraising consultant, had talked about your sharing a copy of your August talk with us. There was some
language in it that we particularly would like to build on as we craft our approach to some of our potential donors. If you could send it
when convenient we'd be grateful.
This must be the year for biography - we had 90 people here last night to hear our two Pulitzer authors!
Hope you survived August!
Thanks,
Ruth
Ruth A. Eveland
Director
Jesup Memorial Library
34 Mt. Desert Street
Bar Harbor, Maine 04609
207/288-4245 (library); 207/610-2355 (cell)
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From : Ruth Eveland
Wed, Sep 23, 2015 04:42 PM
Sender : ruth eveland
Subject : Re: Library Programming Request
To : Ronald Epp
Cc : Mel Rice
Ron,
Some great choices. Mel gets back at the end of the week, and she and I will talk and get back to you. I'm partial to #3 or #4,
personally.
Thanks,
Ruth
Ruth A. Eveland
Director
Jesup Memorial Library
34 Mt. Desert Street
Bar Harbor, Maine 04609
207/288-4245 (library); 207/610-2355 (cell)
reveland@jesuplibrary.org
www.jesuplibrary.org
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On Wed, Sep 23, 2015 at 3:36 PM, Ronald Epp wrote:
Dear Melinda,
Ruth advised me to email you about some ideas for a talk that I would like to give at the Jesup Library in August 2016. I'm fleshing
out my calendar as an Acadia Centennial Partner and would like you to consider whether one of the following topics might best
resonate with your community:
1. Once Again, the Preservation Legacy of Charles W. Eliot (an appreciation of Harvard's Rev. Peter Gomes 2007 FOA address in NEH)
2. Five Years after the Creation (of Acadia National Park)
3. The Prince of Altruists: Two decades of Living with--and Writing about--Mr. Dorr
4. Surprising Revelations: Intimacies in letters between G.B. Dorr, C.W. Eliot, and J.D.R. Jr.
I'd very much like to tentatively settle on a topic within the next couple of weeks, in part so that I can post it on the ACP website and
generate interest. These will not be readings from the Dorr biography. Please suggest available dates.
I believe we met one another when Ruth hosted a Monday meeting at the Jesup back in mid-August.
Thank you for this opportunity,
Ronald
Ronald H. Epp, Ph.D.
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From Ruth Eveland
Sat, Jan 23, 2016 01:11 PM
Sender : ruth eveland
Subject Re: Dorr and the Jesup
To : Ronald Epp
Cc Mel Rice
Ron,
I hope you are weathering the storm - we, apparently, will miss the whole thing. While I don't enjoy the destructive aspect of such a
storm, it would be fun to have an excuse to retreat to the couch with a stack of books.
While I have other emails dating back to then, for some reason I can't find the list you had provided previously. If you could send it
again I'd be grateful. It would be very helpful to be able to delve into your records. We have been trying to pull together all our
historical records, although as you know it is an appallingly small collection. We have a small group pondering some kind of
acknowledgement of our founding process. That's as far as they have gotten. The historical value of the library is one of the items
cited in the study done by our fundraising consultants so we will need to find an optimal way to celebrate that.
When the publication frenzy ebbs a little it would be nifty to talk with you about coaxing your notes into a more robust format.
Chebacco would, I agree, be an excellent venue. I'll be seeing those folks next Monday at the Centennial kickoff bean suppah, and will
drop an inquiry if such an opportunity arises.
I look forward to making time in the next couple of days to read your notes (am on the circ desk at the moment).
Thanks,
Ruth
Ruth A. Eveland
Director
Jesup Memorial Library
34 Mt. Desert Street
Bar Harbor, Maine 04609
207/288-4245 (library); 207/610-2355 (cell)
reveland@jesuplibrary.org
www.jesuplibrary.org
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On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 9:22 PM, Ronald Epp wrote:
Ruth,
I've attached a slightly revised version of the notes I used for my May 20, 2011 talk at the Jesup.
I
can't recall if I gave you or Nancy a version. These are only the notes, not a well-constructed
essay. I have a graphics announcement that the library prepared to market my talk.
Let me know if this is helpful. It could be developed as a historical position paper for your archive,
presentation, or publication. Frankly, I'd like to see an account of the Jesup published in Chebacco,
if you have any strings you can pull.
I
also came across a paper copy of an email I sent you on 7/20/2010 itemizing the copies of primary
Jesup documents that are in my collection, about a dozen items tracking back to the M. Jesup 1899 obit.
If you no longer have this email and want a copy of it let me know. When I next visit in April I can bring
along my file for you to review and copy items not in your archives. Interested? By then I might have
some ideas on how this information will best serve your capital campaign. But right now my head
is still filled with the seemingly endless revisions of galley drafts of the Dorr biography.
Snowing here. Blizzard conditions have not yet arrived but we expect to receive at least 18 inches
by Saturday night.
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Isabella Connelly
Tue, May 25, 2021 at 3:36 PM
To: "dorr1853@gmail.com"
Cc: Ruth Eveland
Hi Ron,
I
hope you've been well (and enjoying the warmer spring weather!) since we met a few
weeks ago. We have a copy of the text of the August 2016 talk you gave at the Jesup,
"Surprising Revelations: Intimacies in the Letters Between Charles W. Eliot, George B. Dorr
& John D. Rockefeller Jr.", and we'd like to upload it to the Digital Archive; would that be all
right with you? I attached the version we have, in case you want to review it. I also noticed
that the email address listed at the end of the document is different than the one I have; do
you prefer one over the other?
Thanks,
Isabella
Isabella Connelly
Collection & Digital Archive Manager
Jesup Memorial Library
iconnelly@jesuplibrary.org
207-292-7555
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Tue, May 25, 2021 at 5:27 PM
To: Isabella Connelly
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Isabella,
How wonderful to hear from you after our first meeting two weeks ago to this day.
I am most pleased that you will transfer the printed copy of my August 2016 Jesup talk to
the "Digital Archive." Please explain where this will be preserved since there are many
digital repositories that are linked from the Jesup pages.
I have read anew this paper and am pleased with its language and argument. Of the several
talks I have given at the Jesup, this is my favorite! It was given four months after the Jesup
hosted the book launch for Creating Acadia National Park (4/7/2016). This talk was filmed
and then put on the Jesup Facebook page. I never looked at it until a few months ago when
I
tried unsuccessfully to recover it there. Do you have access to a copy that you can share
with me?
The email at the end of the paper is no longer mine. Please remove it and substitute :
dorr1853@gmail.com.
I very much look forward to working with you as we move closer to the gift of the Dorr
Archive to the Jesup.
All the Best,
Ronald Epp
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Isabella Connelly
Thu, May 27, 2021 at 5:05 PM
To: Ronald Epp
Ron,
Thank you! The talk will be part of the History Trust's Digital Archive project, available
through both the Jesup-specific site (www.jesuplibrary.net) and through the History Trust
site that aggregates the Digital Archive materials of participating organizations
(www.historytrust.net). When we start digitizing the Dorr Archive, it will available through
both those sites as well.
Here's a link to your lecture, now on the Digital Archive: https://jesuplibrary.net/
digitalarchive/items/show/3383
I will track down the recording and send it to you, as well.
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Thanks,
Isabella
Isabella Connelly
Collection & Digital Archive Manager
Jesup Memorial Library
iconnelly@jesuplibrary.org
207-292-7555
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Spoke at length with Ralph Holibaugh this afternoon. Two
weeks had lapsed since our last conversation and much
had transpired on both ends.
I had sent him a new link to the Jesup Digital Archive for the
talk I gave there in August 2016: "Surprising Revelations"
about the language of intimacy that GBD, CWE, and JDRJr.
used in some of their written communication, a talk
prompted by comments made by Ruth Eveland as
I
sketched for her some of my research.
The writing of this was undertaken three months after the
book launch for Creating Acadia National Park, at a time
when I was busy giving talks along the Maine coastline.
I
had not read the paper since then and was most
pleasantly surprised when Ralph extolled its merits: the
artistry of the language, the psychological insights, the
depth of feeling-above the level of other talks of mine he
had read. So I will read it anew and see if I can discern what
he uncovered. Made my day !!!
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